From kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Mon Jun 23 17:08:20 1997
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 11:29:15 -0600
From: Sean Kelly <kelly@fsl.noaa.gov>
To: jericho@dimensional.com
Cc: z3ns <zen@sekurity.org>, root@sekurity.org
Subject: Re: recent publicity about the.art.of.security.org (fwd)

Mr Sorder wrote:
> On that customer machine. But you did not call it "the.art.of" in that
> sentence. You called it "sekurity.org" which represents my entire domain.

I was unclear.  I should have used the.art.of.sekurity.org throughout
the original posting.

> Had you been talking about "the.art.of", and been
> consistant in using that machine name, I would have no problem. But you
> didn't.. you dropped that name and used my entire domain name.

I understand.

> So why slander MY ftp server? That is the point I am making.

I should've been more specific.  As you and I have both said, I should
have used "the.art.of" consitently.

> > | whom I should complain?  (Doubtful, as it appears the reason that ftp
> > | site exists is to provide a repository of cracking code.)
> 
> LOOK at it. In that paragraph, you don't say "the.art.of" once. The only
> thing you say is "sekurity.org", which is MY server. I feel I am being
> very clear on this.

I apologize for being unclear in that paragraph.  My intent is that the
antecedent of "that" in the last sentence refer to the same FTP server
used throughout history file posted in the same message, and not the FTP
server for your domain.

> > can see why there would be confusion.  If you wish, I'll offer a public
> > clarification in the same forum in which I originally posted this
> > message.
> 
> If YOU feel that is warranted, feel free. I will not ask you or demand it
> or anything like that. I simply want it clear that my server is different
> from the other, and that my server is not a place for hacker tools only.

It is absolutely clear to me, now.

> If you would like help on this end, I am still more than willing to help
> in any way I can.

Again, thank you for your generosity.  I do understand now how people
reading my original posting could get the incorrect impression of
ftp.sekurity.org, and I'm still willing to clarify my statement on the
mailing list.

I'm actually fond of classical art, and perhaps after things have
quieted down a bit, I could take a look-see---from a non-.gov site!  :-)

Respectfully,
Sean Kelly