[There is new slander quoted at the bottom.] Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:23:07 -0700 To: Cmeinel@aol.com, agent@l0pht.com From: AcidAngel Subject: Re: Otrics Cc: modify@erols.com, jericho@dimensional.com, newjon@the-wire.com awww shiiiiiit.... what the hell is this... ok here is how I see it. 1) you are not answering the damn questions. 2) the only way someone could have gotten to that page and actually thought it was kiddie porn was to have been "Looking for kiddie porn".. (Jon has gotten email from people who have landed there and been mad that he didn't have any pics.. of course he then publicly posts these messages to Otrics..) 3) 'You' did attempted to tantalize me into your $web$ You were so stoked about doing your press conference you had it all written up before I had even said shit to you (and jon has a copy on Otrics with dates to prove it). You were ready to make a media sensation out of me and write the books (if you had sole rights) hahahaha. 4) Freedom of speech? what the fuck are you talking about? what are you doing? You wanting to get Otrics taken down because it has a few references to you and your "big schtick" 5) as far as not giving up after a year or "attacks" you have not given up one single straight answer that is all you have not given up. 6) Hero???? The more a a hero you will be??? what kind of cockameny shit is this? Look carolyn, who are you going to be a hero to? come on, face reality. just answer questions straight.. if you don't know the answer then FUCKING SAY SO GODDAMMIT.. don't try to hide behind your little screens that everyone can see right through... and yea, I am still programming. I have a job as a software engineer now. I sit 40+ hours a week staring at a computer, the last thing I want to see when I come home to read my email is your bullshit splattered all over my screen. So if you are gonna be on AOL, just stay there and leave us "real world" people alone. Jon is a very good friend of mine who I have known longer than anyone on this list.. I got your emails to him, I bet they will end up on OTRICS. guess what? you still fail.. >At 04:30 PM 9/15/97 -0400, Cmeinel@aol.com wrote: > >> OK you guys. >> >> I have a right to object to stuff that makes it look like it is links to >> kiddie porn. If that was a joke, it was a dumb joke. >> >> Tell you what -- the day Jon removes all his libels of me form his PUBLIC >> web site, and apologises for setting up a web page that made it look like >> it was linked ot kiddie porn, and worded it in a way that disgusted me, I >> will apologise for being taken in and offended by what apparently was a >> page of phony links ot kiddie porn-- or a joke or whatever -- and telling >> someone in PRIVATE email. >> >> Doesn't any one of you have the ability to see how one-sided this is? >> Perfectly OK for Jon to post ridiculous fantasies that I was making money >> off AA? And lots of other BS? Yet you guys are getting the vapors because >> I'm going to grant that those links to kiddie porn were phoney -- I was >> offended by a page that if I had studied it more deeply I could have >> overcome the revulsion it inspired in me? >> >> And AA, I'm appalled that you, who know yourself that I begged you to avoid >> becoming a media sensation -- that I was delighted when you called things >> off so we could cancel that press conference -- you refused to speak the >> truth to Jon and refused to stand up for me. >> >> I will fight any of you as long as you continue your practices of trying to >> squelch freedom of speech. You know I haven't given up despite a year of >> attacks. The more you attack me, the more of a hero I'll be. So go ahead, >> make my day. >>