From jericho@dimensional.com Tue Apr 1 11:07:37 1997 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 10:58:26 -0700 (MST) From: jericho@dimensional.com To: "Carolyn P. Meinel" Cc: h4pPy h4cK3rz , DC-Stuff Bcc: z3ns Subject: Re: Happy Hacker Digest April 1, 1997 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From: " Damien Treffs" Just so everyone is clear, this is not me at all. At least two people have made the mistake of assuming it is me since this person is 'Damien' too. >Carolyn: Whoa, I am just *so* terrified of having 'the wrong people mad.' >It's the law enforcement people that I should worry about having mad at me, >and for good reason. If I ever were to let my hobby of hacking lure me into >committing the destructive, childish acts of GALF and johnny angry, I'd >better figure on fleeing the US, getting plastic surgery, and living out my >days as a computer programmer in Wombat Swamp, Australia (no offense, Warpy >and all you Oz dudes:) Please don't forget your repeated posts about how we should fear your (and Winn's) FBI/SS/NSA/CIA/NAACP/whatever friends. Why should I be terrified of them when I am only posting to a list? Why do you bring that up as some form of a quasi-threat every week or so? And why do you never directly answer my questions? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >From warhead@juno.com >Hmmm, you are looking for a fight aren't you? Well, unfortunately not all No. I am looking for the truth. Something that she seems to want to disguise. >of us suffer from what you do - A huge pre-pubescent ego. I know it may Oh, so I have an ego for correcting such careless mistakes such as the one Carolyn and others are making? Whatever. >seem odd to you, Jericho, but *GOOD* hackers don't go picking fights so they >can boost their egos but rather use their knowledge mostly in defense from >people like you. Yes, I CAN download "Up Yours". Yes, I CAN put in your In defense from people like me. What hacking skills can you use to defend against my posts to this list? You sound as ignorant as the other person who made too many wild assumptions. Let me also take this moment to remind you and the others that you don't have the first clue about my hacking skills. I may know nothing, or I may be fairly decent. My entire existance on this list has been to clear up mostly non-technical errors. Occasionally when Carolyn goes out of her way to post up something halfway technical, I will correct that too as it is usually wrong. >e-mail address. Yes, I CAN subscribe you to hundreds of list-servs. The >thing is, that doesn't take a brain! Laughing at people like you and having Oh. Threaten to mailbomb me for my opinion.. and you call ME a lamer? I have never said it takes a lot of know-how to mailbomb. I have simply defended their right to express their opinion wether or not I agree with their means. I happen to agree in their case this time. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire >pride in your abilities and knowing when to use them does. If you'd like to >continue this in e-mail, feel free. Why? You seem too unwilling to read my messages and accept them for what they are. From what I can tell, you seem too quick to jump to inaccurate conclusions. >If you'd like to mail-bomb me there, feel free! Really! I would be >overjoyed if you would because then you would simply prove to everyone >on this list how much of a lamer you really are. Now, if you'd like >to hack into Juno and disable my account I would respect your >abilities, I'd still hate you but I'd respect your ability to hack >Juno's minor security defenses. Catch you all later As I was saying above.. why do you assume I would mailbomb you? I haven't mailbombed anyone on this list (or any other) for any reason, especially not for expressing their opinion (which you are doing now). If I were to mailbomb anyone, don't you think I would have hit Carolyn a while back? As for the "how much of a lamer you really are" comment, I don't know what to say to you. Maybe that you shouldn't judge me because you know nothing of me? Or maybe that if you consider me with my skills lame, then it speaks volumes about your ineptness? Or just laugh at you as another 'juno' user that doesn't apparently even have a shell account to play with yourself? You pick whatever makes you happy. I will sit back here at work doing exploitation and security research. =-= >Carolyn: For the record, no post on the Happy Hacker list has claimed that >jericho is a member of GALF or that he is angry johnny (the mass email >bomber). To make such a claim without sufficient evidence in a public forum >would be libel. However, a number of posts, for example But they have insinuated that I am a member, or the person responsible for their actions, or other things. See below for a quote from the last digest. >wraith@dimensional.com, have noted jericho's close emotional identification >with these people. But emotional identification does not equal identity. In >trying to hunt down computer criminals, it is wise to keep in mind Will >Rogers' dictum: "It isn't what you don't know that hurts you, it's what you >know that ain't so." So please do not jump to conclusions about probable >motivations for jericho"s recent posts. Thank you for pointing that out to our less than cluefull members. =-= > 2)Crackers who rm system files, as GALF has done in the past at UTEP and as > jericho appears to be threatening to do to them again, are breaking the law ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ And you wonder why I think YOU are starting these assumptions?