From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: AnsMe Staff
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:15:29 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Remove Site


: Again, as i said before, we collect no terms from them. 
: 
: We don't carry a counter at all on our site, and we don't store
: anything. Not their IP, not their screen resolution, nore their search
: terms that they came in with. 

Well, you are lying to me or you are being swindled by your 4 IT staff..

: Also, let me ask you this. Why don't you have a statement saying which
: sites have now been protected? Those sites that were hacked once,
: doesn't mean they will be hacked again. We have hired 4 IT professionals

So these 4 professionals didn't recommend you use BASIC and DEFAULT
logging that comes on EVERY web server known to man? Did they go out of
their way to disable those logs? If so, you should look at pressing
criminal charges against them. If not, then you know nothing about the
information you DO collect.

Which is it?

: in July to make sure no hacking happens again. Does it say that on your
: site? No. Therefore, its false advertising, causing damage to our name.

False advertising? Do you even know what that term means? Obviously not.

We don't advertise at all. Not for us, not for you. We are no different
than a search engine. We just archive very specific information related to
web defacements.

: Something that happened in April as it says on your web site (if it 
: happened at all, you don't even have proof that it did happen), and

Listen. You are clearly a moron. It did happen. How do you think we got a
copy of the page? Because we WITNESSED the defacement and took a copy of
it.

You are lying to yourself, lying to me, and lying to your customers. You
are a fraud.

: hasn't happened since the date you mention, has no relevance to what our
: site is right now. You are just inviting hackers to target those sites
: again, for they were weak once, they will be weak again. 

Wait, you just suggested it never happened. "you don't even have proof
that it did happen" you said. So if that is the case, it couldn't be "weak
again".

: You are causing more damage than helping those sites. Again, our
: position still stands.

And you are lying.

You said you were consulting your lawyer. At that point you should have
stopped communicating with me and left it in your lawyer's hands. Your
lawyer would have advised that. So you lied to me there too. You have no
lawyer. If you did consult or retain a lawyer, then have them contact us.
Elsewise, quit mailing me and misrepresenting yourself.




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