From: Calumet Hantu (chantu@inbox.com)
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 05:03:57 -0800
Subject: Question.

If you were in desperate need of money, would you use illegal ways in doing so?

And besides that: What would give you a higher chance of getting caught.

Either robbing a bank, or stealing credit card information.

Greetings,

Calumet Hantu




From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
To: Calumet Hantu (chantu@inbox.com)
Bcc: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Question.


On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Calumet Hantu wrote:

": " If you were in desperate need of money, would you use illegal ways in doing so?

If you mean doing something illegal for money, no.  That's what loans
(preferably through a bank) and credit are for.  Although, you would have
to define "desperate"; it would also depend on how much money and if
someone's life depended on it, but my 99.999% answer would still be no.


": " And besides that: What would give you a higher chance of getting caught.
": "
": " Either robbing a bank, or stealing credit card information.

I'd consider both extremely risky.  It should be noted that someone
wouldn't be as likely to, oh say, get shot in the face stealing credit
card information, but there have been quite a few credit card theft
arrests in the news lately.

Curious why you may be asking, but if you disclose any information about
planning to commit a crime, I'll have to turn all available information
about your plans to the authorities.  Fair warning.




From: Calumet Hantu (chantu@inbox.com)
To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:33:48 -0800
Subject: Re: Question.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lyger@attrition.org
> Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC)
> To: chantu@inbox.com
> Subject: Re: Question.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Calumet Hantu wrote:
>
> -- cut --
>
> I'd consider both extremely risky.  It should be noted that someone
> wouldn't be as likely to, oh say, get shot in the face stealing credit
> card information, but there have been quite a few credit card theft
> arrests in the new lately.
>
> Curious why you may be asking, but if you disclose any information about
> planning to commit a crime, I'll have to turn all available information
> about your plans to the authorities.  Fair warning.

No, I was just asking your opinion. I have actually read attrition, and I 
really wonder why there are so much idiots still trying to ask for your 'help'.
Is the human being so ignorant? Or just persistent.

Greetings.

ps: authorities?




From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
To: Calumet Hantu (chantu@inbox.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:12:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Question.



": " > -----Original Message-----
": " > From: lyger@attrition.org
": " > Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC)
": " > To: chantu@inbox.com
": " > Subject: Re: Question.
": " >
": " >
": " >
": " > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Calumet Hantu wrote:
": " >
": " > Curious why you may be asking, but if you disclose any information about
": " > planning to commit a crime, I'll have to turn all available information
": " > about your plans to the authorities.  Fair warning.
": "
": " No, I was just asking your opinion. I have actually read attrition, and I 
": " really wonder why there are so much idiots still trying to ask for your
": " 'help'. Is the human being so ignorant? Or just persistent.

I think most people actually don't read attrition before sending some of
those emails and have some notion that we advocate criminal forms of
hacking and other illegal activity.  Ignorant and persistant, perhaps, but
generally just very misguided and/or misinformed.


": " Greetings.
": "
": " ps: authorities?

If you had disclosed the intent to commit a crime, I would have to report
it to the police or other law enforcement agencies, otherwise I would be
considered to be an accomplice.  Glad to hear that's not what you meant.
:)




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