This thread is in response to the following commentary:

http://www.attrition.org/security/commentary/cn-us-war.html
From: Alvin Cheung (alvincheung98@hotmail.com)
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To: cn-us@attrition.org
Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:13:02 +0800
Subject: "Cyberwar with China"


"Apr 10 - The American site iplexmarin is allegedly defaced 
by Chinese hackers. While we don't doubt that Chinese hackers are
capable of doing this, the English used seems a little too polished:" 

How nice of you to think of us all as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals 
devoid of a mastery of English.  This stereotyping does NOT belong on 
attrition.org and I hope that I will never see the likes of this again. 

From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Alvin Cheung (alvincheung98@hotmail.com)
Cc: cn-us@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 04:35:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: "Cyberwar with China"


: "Apr 10 - The American site iplexmarin is allegedly defaced by Chinese
: hackers. While we don't doubt that Chinese hackers are capable of doing
: this, the English used seems a little too polished:" 
: 
: How nice of you to think of us all as knuckle-dragging Neanderthals
: devoid of a mastery of English.  This stereotyping does NOT belong on
: attrition.org and I hope that I will never see the likes of this again. 

Oh fuck off. Go read the absolute SHIT that the "chinese hackers" are
posting on sites every day that we mirror without question. The insults
they lay on Americans without disclaimer. Talk about stereotyping.

FACT is, compare that defacement with EVERY OTHER "chinese" defacement in
the last three weeks (over 250), you will see it is QUITE different than
the rest. Our observation was perfectly valid and made based on seeing
several defacements allegedly from 'chinese hackers'.

I hope you mail all those morons posting stereotypical crap since you
mailed us. In fact, if I don't get cc'd on a doze or so such flames, I can
easily discount you as a whiner that is just begging to find something
wrong so you can whine and make yourself feel better.

Jericho
another honkey

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