From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: hackers_bware@yahoo.in, prateek2654@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:06:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

Prateek & Navneet;

Regarding your recent book titled "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking", did 
you two write all of the material in this? Or did you copy some text previously published 
on the Internet?

Thanks,

- jericho

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:55:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: We two have written most of the materials and some of the text were copied

By 'most', would you say over 50%?

: just for reference but not all.. Because its quite obvious that a person
: cannot write the whole book on his own . That's it..

Why do you say it is 'quite obvious' that a person cannot write it?
First, many authors write entire books, much longer than this one.
Second, there are two authors listed, and the book is only 204 pages.
That means you would only need to write 102 pages each.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:04:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: No, The book is almost written by me.. Only three chapters have been
: contributed by Mr. Navneet Mehra. And regarding that 50%, I don't agree
: because I have not copied everything as you are saying.

I asked if you wrote over 50% or not.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:06:48 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: Sorry !!! Yes, I wrote over 50 % materials

How do you make the distinction between "some of the text were copied
just for reference" and plagiarism?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:13:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: Both are different words having same meaning but If you want to call me a

So you admit to taking material without crediting the original source.
Thanks, that helps me understand.

: Plagiarizer, I'm sorry, I don't agree with you because what i did was
: just took some relevant texts which I was writing about.

There are entire sections, multiple pages at a time, that are not your
writing. You did not write big chunks of this book, yet you put your name
to it, and you did not credite the original author.

Do you think that is considered 'ethical'?

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:19:19 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: Yes, Since this was the first time, i do believe that I made a mistake
: by not crediting those authors whose material, i have used in the book
: but I'll use your suggestion for future ...

Navneet has "authored 5 books" according to one article. Can you tell me
which chapters he wrote in this book?

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:22:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

Thank you.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:13:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book

One more question.

Why do you think you are the "second youngest author in this field"?

From: security curmudgeon (jericho-at_attrition.org)
To: Prateek Shukla (prateek2654@gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:26:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: question about "The Unrevealed Secrets of Hacking and Cracking" book


On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Prateek Shukla wrote:

: Securing Wireless Network

This chapter is almost entirely plagiarized too. Makes me think Navneet's
other books are likely stolen material too.